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Advance 21hp Engine

This is the last engine I had, an Advance 21hp.

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Salina, Kansas

('J. B. Duryea' is substituted for subject's name in this sketch.)

Mr. Duryea, who lived in Leaven-worth Co., Kansas, near Kansas City, went to the Kansas City Branch House of Advance Thresher Co. in 1904, and bought an Advance rebuilt 18hp compound engine and a new Advance 36-60 fully equipped separator, with a geared wind stacker attached. The machinery was shipped to Rooks Co., Kansas. The south half of Rooks Co. was my territory. Advance Thresher wrote me, 'to see that Mr. Duryea received proper attention.'

An Advance Separator was fast, heavy in the belt, on the drawbar, and a heavy load for a 22hp engine. Mr. Duryea was sold or bought too small an engine, but at that time Advance Thresher Company and other threshing machine companies had been selling 36-60 separators fully equipped to 15 and 16hp engines. All were heavily loaded. There was a difference operating a 16hp engine doing a 22hp load and a 25hp doing a 20hp load. Firebox and all other troubles developed more quickly, especially in hard water, in an engine, with insufficient power, and with an overloaded engine there can be no 'hook-up' without a sacrifice of power.

A 16 was considered a large engine, as late as 1903. Copies of Chattel Mortgage Records, covering two 16hp Advance engines are submitted as evidence Advance 16hp engines were sold to 36 - 60 separators, fully equipped in 1900.

A copy of a Chattel Mortgage Record, covering Advance 16hp engine 5328 was recorded in Lincoln County, Kansas, June 21, 1900.

A copy of a Chattel Mortgage Record, covering Advance 16hp engine 5343 was recorded June 24, 1900 in Lincoln County, Kansas.

Advance engine 5328 drove its old separator the 1900-01-02-03 and 04 seasons. Zach Hayden, a good engine man, operated it in 1903 and 1904.

Advance engine 5343 drove the old separator through the 1900 - 06 seasons and a new 36' separator in 1907, before being traded in 1908.

Lue Glick, a good operator, hauled that heavy separator through the ploughed fields and over the hills of the Saline River and Hell Creek several years.

A copy of a Chattel Mortgage, covering Advance 18hp compound 7553 was recorded in Lincoln County, Kansas, July 13, 1903. That was the first engine I sold for Advance Thresher Company, the first of 41 compounds and the largest engine I sold in 1903. That engine drove 36' separators 7 seasons before it was traded in 1910, for new 21hp compound No. 11925.

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