SOOT IN THE FLUES

Soot in the flues

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Speed! Power! Performance! Humans have always wanted more, more, more of all three from developing technology, and they've gotten what they wished for tremendous advances in machines and methods that have, in some instances, nearly removed the farmer from the farming.

But they say that, on any journey to the future, you can't know where you're going unless you know where you've been. That's what makes the engine shows so important; they put us back in touch, literally, with what it took, and what it means, to labor to feed a nation.

These few months are filled with lots of shows across the land. Don't miss the opportunity to support the efforts of those who, like yourselves, are working to remind us where we've come from.

And don't miss the chance to share what you find out there with fellow IMA readers drop us a line if you find something, or someone, interesting! Now, on to our letters.

We hear this from GREGORY HOESLI, 717 W. South Street, Salina, Kansas 67401-4063, 'In the May/June issue, Pete LaBelle wonders if the comparison between steam engines and gasoline (or diesel) engines can be made more clear. Both in theory and in fact, the modern gas engines do indeed develop much more power than the steam tractors on the basis of size, and the two clues as to why this makes sense come from the differing nature of the two types of engines. The steam engine uses wood or coal burned externally to power the engine itself, whereas the gas engine burns its fuel internally, and much more efficiently and that gasoline has about 60% to 100% more heat value per pound than coal. Also, the speed of the steam engine is so slow by comparison. Remember that 'power' is 'work' (such as torque in foot-pounds) per unit of time, and even though the steam engine has a power stroke twice per revolution while the gas four-cycle engine has one every other revolution, the gas engine is running some ten times faster. That is why the power comes in such a small package. It is interesting to note that the maximum torque of a steam engine is at zero rpm but a gas engine must be running at a good clip to get its maximum torque. In fact, the gas engine has no power at zero rpm. For comparison, both engines' calculated power are derived from:

HP= PLAN/33,000,

where P is the more effective pressure in psi, L is the stroke length in feet, A is the area of the piston in square inches, and N is the number of power strokes per minute.

'The nature of a steam driven piston and the slide valve mechanism assures that the pressure against the piston can never be at boiler pressure, but at some lesser value. In the gas engine cylinder, the internal burning of the fuel is very fast, which causes very, very high mean (average) pressures against the piston. Of course the stroke of the steam engine is longer, but that one advantage is more than offset by the multiple advantages of the gas engine. Another key feature of the gas engine is pressure lubrication which greatly reduces the friction factor over that of the steam engine. So, if you want compact power, choose the gasoline or diesel, or better yet the gas turbine engine.

'But for a hundred other reasons, nothing but a steam engine will do. Put it on a sawmill or a separator every time over the gas tractor. There is character there that cannot be matched by any noisy, smelly internal combustion engine. I hope this helps some.'

Whew! I was almost convinced we should scrap the steamers, 'til I got to that last paragraph. You're right, Gregory, sometimes nothing but a steam engine will do, if for no other reason than that they smell so good!

JON S. GOULD, 525 W. Van Buren Avenue, Naperville, Illinois 60540, e-mail steam@anet.com, tells us: 'Here are some photos of the 250 HP Vilter tandem compound Corliss steam engine owned by the Northern Illinois Steam Power Club of Sycamore, Illinois. This engine was donated to the club in 1990 in disassembled condition. It was built in 1920 by Vilter, and installed at the U.S. Glue Company plant at Milwaukee, Wisconsin. It is directly connected to an 89 ton ammonia compressor. The boiler used to supply steam for this engine was built in 1952 by the Kewanee Boiler Corporation and installed at the Casad Army Engineers Depot at New Haven, Indiana. We fire this boiler with wood and coal.

'After many hours of labor by club members and friends (mostly volunteer), we now have this display operational.'

Always nice to see Kewanee products in usemy husband's family was associated with the company for many years, and we keep a constant eye out for its name. If you ever visit 'Biltmore,' the fabulous Vanderbilt estate in Asheville, North Carolina, take the behind-the-scenes tour and you'll see Kewanee boilers in the sub-basement.

LARRY MIX, 2075 Coburn Road, Hastings, Michigan 49058 sent the photo at bottom of the previous page, saying, 'This picture and statement was given to me by Bernie Wood man see, and he asked me to send it to Iron Men Album.

'It is a picture of Big Ole Red Falconer. Ole Red ate a box of corn flakes with bee honey on it with one shot of moonshine from his still. He was attempting to fire the Farquhar stationary engine at Bill Roberts' at Somerset, Virginia, on the sawmill, April 2000.

'Ole Red was fogged twice (ran out of steam) in the sawmill in just one hour. We don't know if it was caused because of his beer belly problem or being overcome by moonshine.

'Ole Red also had a terrible time trying to fire a 25 HP Russell at Willis Able's Mineral Beach Show in 1997 (see January/February 2000 IMA, page 8).

'Having a good time with friends and kidding around and poking fun at each other is what makes this hobby so much fun.'

A nice encouraging note comes from GERALD DARR, 2220 Bishops gate Drive, Toledo, Ohio 43614, who writes, 'The IMA July/August 2000 issue was especially enjoyable. The Karen Chabal article about Wayne Kennedy's restoration of the New Giant was so interesting as he related the intricacies of a major repair job and how there is not enough qualified help around and it is heavy work.

I would describe it as taking a lot of human strength and awkwardness. Then you have all the expense of machine shop work and parts.

'There seem to be more steam shows advertised this year. A person could travel all around the country and take in a show every week, and I presume some people do just that.

'Due to my back condition, I can hardly walk at one show. I cannot take in National Threshers at Wauseon this year, as we will have company at the house for our granddaughter's wedding.'

Glad to hear you're enjoying the magazine, Gerald...and best wishes to your granddaughter! As for getting around at the shows, there's an article in the March 2000 issue of Gas Engine Magazine (IMA's sister publication) by Jim Fish that tells how his club, the Ashland County Yesteryear Machinery Club, has addressed the problem. Interesting reading for those who want to make a show visit less of a strain on the old 'chassis.'

We have another interesting letter and photos from JOHN S. COX, P.O. Box 205, Carbondale, Illinois 62903: 'After reading the article on Scheidler engines in the April/May 2000 Engineers and Engines magazine, and going back to the article in January/February 1999 IMA, I was prompted to dig out and reproduce a couple of old pics I have from my father's collection.

'Pic #1 is a 16 HP Scheidler #434, built in 1898. Picture was taken in 1915 at the Archer family homestead, Summerfield, Ohio. Engine was owned by Archer Brothers. C. V. Archer is shown on the engine. The pics are written on back by Francis S. Archer of Zanesville, Ohio, who is pictured in #2. He writes, This was a very excellent engine and was our sawmill engine.' This looks like a well put together engine and obviously gave long and good service.

'The other pic I'm sending is a picture of a threshing scene I really like. The picture has written on the front, Threshing in Nebraska August 23, 1931, near Minden, Kearney County.' On the back of the picture is written, '25 Minneapolis engine. 36 x 58' J. I. Case thresher with Garden City feeder. 9' x 160' driver belt. Photo by I. W. Tolaker.

'Anyone have any idea who this outfit belonged to and whose farm it was on?'

More appreciative comments: RUSS GELDER, 6251 Pearl Drive, Manhattan, Montana 59741-8431 offers, 'Greetings from Montana once again. I sure enjoyed your July/August issue. I wish to thank some of my friends for their nice articles, also. Pete LaBelle for his corn steaming article, Beth Vanarsdall for her article and pictures on winter threshing, and Gary Yaeger for his wonderful contribution of photos.

'I'm also including a photo of a new project that followed me home recently. The engine is a 15 HP Advance that I purchased in April of this year. I had my youngest daughter, Kasondra, along to help jack it up and dig out the wheels. Hopefully she is small enough that the ratio of humanity versus engine in the photo is not too upsetting to Mr. Creed.

'The Advance is old, as you can see by the 'hay mower' style rear wheels, probably of 1890s vintage. We are looking forward to the restoration and eventually a fun little engine to run. I'll keep you folks posted on progress along the way.'

Russ, I love everything about your photo, but especially the memories it brings back of the days when I was called on to be Dad's 'helper.' I suspect I was usually more hindrance than help, but the important lesson was this: a family is a team, with each member's contribution a thing of valueand nothing demonstrates that better than enjoying hard work together toward a common goal. Goodness, I'm sentimental today, but doggone it, it's true!

CHADY ATTEBERRY, 931 Robin Road, Blackwell, Oklahoma 74631, sent us this letter: 'I always enjoy Soot in the Flues. Many thanks to my friends Larry Creed, Gary Yaeger, and others that send in such nice pictures. I have enclosed a few.

'No. 1 picture is Lyle Hoffmaster, president of 'Case Haters Club,' and my daughter, Beverly Atteberry. The picture was taken at Mt. Pleasant, Iowa 1999 Show. Lyle and Beverly, even with a great difference in their ages, have a lot in common. Both Lyle and Bev's father and grandfather were strong Case men. It's not known why Lyle switched to Reeves. I've been told Lyle had a difficult birth and the doctor dropped him on his head. Beverly and her sister Barbara own and run the family 65 HP #32724 and the Elgin Watch 40 #31393. Bev is right at home on both engines. Lyle and Bev seem very happy. In his heart he knows his father, grandfather and Case were No. 1!

'Picture #2 shows the smokebox door of Avery undermount and the famous Avery trademark. I and most of you have thought the dog to be a bulldog. However, Wayne Kennedy, long time steam director at Mt. Pleasant, made an extensive study of this dog. Wayne proved beyond all reasonable doubt, after tracing the genealogy of this dog, it's not a bulldog, but a Reeves retriever!

'Photo #3 is the first spring fire-up at Pawnee April 9, 2000. The good little double Keck is #1636. I purchased this engine in 1963 in Fulton, Missouri, from the Ed Peacock estate, one of the first Keck engines ever in Oklahoma. I started looking at steam engines as a little boy, and rode on my first engine, a 20 HP Russell that came by the farm, in 1934. I never saw a Keck engine until I was 25 years old and it was at Kinzer, Pennsylvania. #1636 is a dandy. It's now owned by Steve Dunn of Jennings, Oklahoma. The under mount Alberta Saskatchewan Special #4868, built in 1913, spent its working life in the Red Deer, Alberta, Canada area. The late Louis David purchased it from a Mr. Ross in the early fifties and moved it to Leroy Blaker's in Ohio. The pop lifts at 175 lbs. This is the engine Amos Rixmann made his last big pull with. Amos didn't cut #4868 any slack. He didn't have to. Dale Wolff, the engineer, had a feather on the pop the entire pull. One fellow, after about one hour in the pull when Amos had ole #4868 preaching the gospel, brought me a club. He said to go use it on Amos. I told him with an engine like #4868 and with an engineer like Dale Wolff you didn't need to cut any slack and not to worry. The dog 'Reeves Retriever' was hollering down to Amos, 'Avery didn't have to bug out and run at Winnipeg in 1913; pour it on!' And pour it on Amos did.

'Picture #4. Two good friends, the late F. J. Woods on left and Leroy Blaker of Wichita, Kansas, in 1954. The engine was Harold and Herb Ottaway's 20 HP Woods Bros. Dad went north for Woods Brothers in 1929, servicing combines and threshing machines. He followed the harvest into Montana. F. J. Woods was the only manufacturer of steam engines that I knew. Leroy Blaker was a good friend and always treated me nice. If you went into a brake test, economy or max HP against Leroy, you had better have your engine right and be able to run and fire it.'

That's it for letters this time around, but don't miss the next page for more great old photos from Gary Yaeger's collection.

Til next time, stay out of hot water... go right for the steam instead!!!

Steamcerely, Linda & Gail

This picture is another classic threshing crew picture. The threshing outfit was owned by Matthew Urs and James Kratovchil of Coffee Creek, but the picture was taken about 40 miles away, near Lewistown. The engine is a 32 HP Reeves cross compound U.S. and the thresher is a Red River Special, by Nichols & Shepard.

Frank Strouf's grandson, Roland Fulbright, allowed me to copy the photo collection he has of the Strouf farm. This picture shows the 40 U.S. Reeves and a 30 under mounted Avery freighting building materials from Stanford, Montana, to the farm on Wolf Creek. Don Bradley thinks this Avery engine was eventually the one he pulled out of Bear Canyon and restored several years ago.

This is probably the classic of freighting pictures? Shown is Frank Strouf's 30 Avery, Steve Anderson's 40 HP Z-3 Geiser-Peerless, and Strouf's 40 HP U.S. Reeves. They are moving equipment and supplies to the Denton area in 1912, for the building of the new Milwaukee Railroad from Lewistown to Great Falls.